Gypsies Hijack Open Office For Profit

Naivety

It’s interesting but not completely surprising that this industry exists. The fact that I didn’t know about it until today is a testament to my naivety as a free software user. When I first saw this post on /r/opensource, I was outraged and I felt like I needed to get to the bottom of things. Now, as this piece is coming to a close, I’m starting to regret the headline a bit. To some of you, this is news, but to many of you, this is the sad, depraved reality that you’ve always lived in.

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As Ubuntu gains in popularity, what’s to stop these stupidity preying con artists from preying on the average user of Ubuntu? If Ubuntu gains the sort of mass appeal that it hopes to, it will be even easier for con-artists to throw toolbars all over a user’s system. Just think about it… How easy would it be to write a script that pulls toolbars from the web and then asks apt to instal say, Gimp or Audacity. Or Inkscape. Or Filezilla…

It’s scary out there…

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Deckard_Cain

You should rename the article. Some people might construe the title as being racist torwards gypsies.

But this is quite worrisome indeed.
- lordpenguin
  
  I’m using the term “Gypsy” as used in English law. “persons of nomadic habit of life, whatever their race or origin, but
  does not include members of an organised group of travelling showmen, or
  persons engaged in travelling circuses, travelling together as such.”
  - Deckard_Cain
    
    Gypsies is also used to refer to the romani people. So you should REALLY change the title of your article.
    - http://www.facebook.com/spas.jelev.5 Spas Jelev
      
      This is exactly gypsy job! Ask people in eastern europe, especially in Romania and Bulgaria
  - arochester
    
    a) I worked in an English lawyers office for several years: and b) I later managed a Romany Gypsy. What doe this article have to do with Gypsies? Are we supposed to equate Gypsy with Cheat?
http://www.facebook.com/edmund.potts Edmund Potts

Stop referring to “gypsies”. All you’re doing is perpetuating prejudice. if you need me to explain it more I will, but to be honest common sense should tell you why it might be offensive.
- http://www.facebook.com/edmund.potts Edmund Potts
  
  ok, “gypsies” in British english usage is overwhelmingly used to refer to the often-ethnically-distinct (and always culturally distinct) community more properly known as Roma or Romani. They were mistakenly termed “gypsies” in previous centuries because of the common misconception that they originated in eGYPt.
  
  The usage of gypsy you employ here is a misguided and potentially offensive one stemming from prejudice and misunderstanding directed at Romani because of their distinctive nomadic way of life, which became unfairly associated with uncleanliness, barbarism, and criminality. By analogy this term then was extended to other nomadic communities (such as Irish Travellers), but mostly still with intended negative connotations – the association with crime and otherness is always at least implicit.
  
  Therefore it could easily be offensive for you to equate “gypsy” with scams, con artists or deception, while it still is used (albeit imprecisely or mistakenly) to describe a distinct (not to mention vulnerable and demonised) ethnic/cultural group.
lordpenguin

So, with all of this backlash stemming from traffic from an American site, where we use Gypsy the way I have in the article, is still offensive?

If there were an American feature film about Gypsies that lie, steal, cheat and kill, would that be offensive too? …Or is this just the LXer crowd…
- http://www.facebook.com/edmund.potts Edmund Potts
  
  Yes, unfortunately, it is still offensive: because you and your compatriots’ use of the term stems from bigotry, as I have explained. Therefore it’s impossible to divorce the word gypsy from the prejudice and offence it implies elsewhere, regardless of whether you personally are in America or anywhere else. In the same way that I wouldn’t use any of the anti-american slang terms at my disposal (even with an altered meaning), because of the offence I know they could easily cause to americans reading my blog. It doesn’t matter where you personally are sitting, you have to recognise that you have a global readership and take a little account of that. Notice that no-one has called you a racist or prejudiced (because I don’t think anyone would believe that), but instead we have tried to explain why something you have said might be offensive. In actual fact, I’m partly hoping you’ll just change it for your own sake because it really isn’t worth the stupid “pretended outrage” storm on twitter that could blow up over something like this.
  - lordpenguin
    
    Or “pretend outrage” from LXer?
    - http://www.facebook.com/edmund.potts Edmund Potts
      
      I’m not outraged, because you clearly didn’t mean offence. I’m just asking you to change something which unfortunately *is* offensive and prolongs negative stereotyping of Roma. Seriously, I knew one guy from the community where I used to live, and he equates “gypsy” with ni**er in terms of offence caused. Also, get off your high horse. I haven’t posted this on any social networking sites or called attention to it in any way. I do use Lxer from time to time, but that wasn’t how I came across this article – I read your site because you seem well-informed and you write clearly.
      - Guest
        
        Thank you, I appreciate it.
      - http://profiles.google.com/deanhowell2 Dean Howell
        
        My apologies.
- arochester
  
  What is the use of claiming it’s used in an American sense, so it’s OK? You have published it to the world. Some people in the USA used to use derogatory terms for black people. Was that OK because it was done in an American sense?.
  
  The Nazi killed Jewish people in the Holocaust. They also killed homosexuals. They also killed Gypsies.
  Could you imagine the furore if you had titled your article “Jews…”
  - http://profiles.google.com/deanhowell2 Dean Howell
    
    It’s because I am from America. It is the only place that I have ever lived. I cannot be expected to know what is racist and what is not racist in every country the world over. That is ridiculous.
    
    I may have been better off calling them “Trunk-slammers”. Regardless, the title of this article was changed using perfectly literal words that merely align themselves with the American usage of Gypsy, wothout using the word Gypsy. All mentions of the word Gypsy have been replaced in the article as well. All of this was done over an hour before your comment as well.
    - http://www.facebook.com/wolftune Aaron Wolf
      
      Thanks Dean. And please don’t lump this with America. I’m American and I would have posted the exact same comment if nobody else already did. I believe 100% in you being unintentional and not meaning any disrespect, but it is still very good that you changed the article. Thanks.
http://www.facebook.com/edmund.potts Edmund Potts

Thank you.
http://about.me/nlsthzn Neil Oosthuizen

I find the issue of this happening in Ubuntu moot as the Software Center grows in features and popularity. No need to dredge through the internet unmasking these nasties.
gypsy

Please rename this article to something less offensive. E.g. “Jews Hijack Open Office For Profit”
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Willard Scott

Oh no, the URL still has the ‘g’ word in it. I’m ok but my browser is offended!! wah wah wah…
chuntera

Windows anti-virus & anti-spyware apps will often detect these type of plugins. Are there equivalent applications for linux desktop users ?
- hangle
  
  the term ‘will often’ indicates that sometimes the anti-virus fails to do its job. linux users install software from a repository system– not requiring anti-virus software. installing from the web is a different story. the article is a valuable lesson for any operating system user.

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